The Tangwall Campagin. Why do you go to the national tribute ceremony in Charlie Kirk, scheduled for this Sunday in Arizona?
Louis Aliot. For two years, thanks to the spring of freedom of expression in Perpignan, I have welcome authors and speakers like Michel Onfray or Gilles-William Goldnadel, who come to debate this essential subject and which is particularly close to my heart. I did not personally know Charlie Kirk, but he marked the spirits. Not so much by his speaking as by the symbol he has become. We have contacts in the United States who wanted the national rally to be represented in this tribute. It is therefore natural that Marine Le Pen asked me to go there. I will represent the party there as the first vice-president.
How will the ceremony take place?
There will be speaking, defenders of freedoms in France and Europe will express himself alongside their American counterparts.
Will other RN executives be present?
No, not to my knowledge.
Why did you pay tribute last week to the RN summer universities in Bordeaux? What did Charlie Kirk represent?
Charlie Kirk was free to defend his ideas, even if many did not share them. He was murdered precisely because he expressed positions that displeased some. And that, for me, is unbearable. Our western society drifts: we see more and more voices seeking to ban anything and anything. Some, animated by extreme violence, when they fail to respond with debate and argument, choose to physically eliminate their adversaries.
I wanted to intervene to recall the importance of freedom of expression, pluralism, democracy, and to alert this drift which comes, in my opinion, from the far left and the left in general. Charlie Kirk embodies all of this at a time. I also wanted to bring his assassination closer to the attack against Charlie Hebdo – With, moreover, the curious coincidence of the same first name.
In Bordeaux you mentioned the “Only real Charlie of democratic debate in France”. Who are they?
Our family of thought, in the broad sense. The national rally, of course, which is today the first political force in this field. But also the CNews channel, which is currently undergoing public audiovisual attacks. In the United States, censorship and ban can go as far as physical death; With us, it is social death, economic death. And maybe tomorrow, some will try to attack our lives. This is a very disturbing perspective for the debate and for the future of our society.
What about other political parties such as UDR, Reconquer or LR?
Of course, many of them be “Charlie of democratic debate in France”. In this context, refusing today a broad alliance of government with the national rally is to show intellectual dishonesty. However, many LR officials take this path.
“In France, censorship is even more present than in the United States”
Could such a drama occur in France?
Yes. In France, censorship is even more present than in the United States. Some have always been fed on the hate of the national camp. But as they discover that they become a minority in opinion, some could one day or another be tempted by radical means. It is up to us to alert and raise awareness of this danger, so that society is organized in order to prevent this from happening.
We must also show that we are the best ramparts against this drift. In my town hall, there is no prohibited, censorship, no witch hunt: there is democratic freedom, the freedom to debate, the freedom to come together. Quite the opposite, in my opinion, of what the left forces defend today.
Is the rally in tribute to Charlie Kirk organized this Friday, September 19 in Paris is a good initiative?
Do you remember Marx’s formula: “Internationalists from all countries, you unite”? Well, I was going to say: “defenders of freedom, unite”. We do not compromise with freedom of expression; This gathering is a good initiative. I wait for the Republicans to take their responsibilities, as well as the socialists, and that all those attached to the democratic debate clearly manifest it.
In the United States, this is the case: Bernie Sanders moved from the assassination of Charlie Kirk when he is nevertheless at the antipodes of his thought. Barack Obama himself said he was horrified. In France, the reaction is sometimes more shy: some explain that we do not “murder people, but it is true that he said unbearable things”. No. As long as we can say “unbearable things”, as they say, we will be in a democracy. The day we can no longer, we will slide step by step towards totalitarianism.
